♪ welcome, everybody. the whole term, cost of freedom, and this combination show of taking the best of our business shows with the best of our news shows was inspired tragically by the convenience on 9-11. once again we are utilizing that name, that term on this day after this week and what an incredible week. but at least this one so far ending on a good note. here is the very latest we have. the 19-year-old suspect in the

boston bombing under very heavy police guard at beth israel hospital. he is in serious condition with two gunshot wounds to the leg and neck. agents seen leaving the hospital this morning. this image is emerging of dzhokhar tsarnaev, just before he was captured. it shows him climbing over the edge of a boat in which he was found hiding. it is believed to have been taken from a helicopter that was overhead surveying the scene. meanwhile in london, officials are beefing up security for sunday's london marathon. hundreds of police officers reportedly being added to the marathon route just a precaution after the boston marathon. we are told they are plan ago moment of silence to honor those lost in boston. to molly line in watertown, massachusetts, with the very latest there. molly? >> hi. we're at franklin street, where the actual capture occurred after the very long manhunt and

the long lockdown here in this community. it's morning. the neighbors are beginning to come out. you can see just down the street past the law enforcement officers here on the edge, there are federal investigators here. the boat where the suspect had been hiding out before the law enforcement converged on the area and ultimately took him into custody is just around the corner at the end of this street. neighbors are telling us incredible stories. obviously gripping fear throughout the day where everyone was locked in their homes and suddenly here in this neighborhood, a convergence of law enforcement quietly moving in, the sirens are off, until things really begin to happen. look at some of this video taken by residents here in the neighborhood. this is from bob glat (bleep) >> i had a chance to speak with

bob and he told me in these incredible stories about what it was like to just witness that and hear all those sounds and his video really gives us that first person view. he was also there with his nephew, nick, who told us how nerve racking it was to be pent up inside all day and now to realize that the man police officers were calling a terrorist throughout the day, heavily armed and dangerous, was right here not so far from them. take a listen. >> within a couple seconds, they opened up fire and massive artillery. it was so loud. we're four houses down. it's like we were right there on top of it. >> they saw everything from the window of the home where they live, including the suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, being put into an ambulance and taken away. as we know now, he's at the hospital and certainly going to be answering quite a few questions in the days and weeks to come. neil? >> molly line, thank you very much. the former mayor of the city of

boston. good to have you back. much has been said back and forth about the timing of the stand down comments when they were telling people the lockdown is over, you can come out, et cetera. on one side, i understand that the good is it allowed this one particular resident to discover blood and that led to the culprit hiding out in his boat. on the other hand, it could have been very dangerous, right? i mean, where do you stand on this whole thing? >> well, i'll tell you, i think the judgment was to get people back to normalcy in their neighborhood, in their community. i think that was the sound judgment. it was a horrible period of time, dickens would say, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times. this was the worst of times for the city of boston, but it also brought out real character of many of the residents, the police, fire and medical, and people just sacrificing to --

even my own granddaughter high school a lemonade sale for the martin family, richard family. and so it was really a good period of time that brought out the best of boston, while it also showed the worst side of what can happen in a great american city. >> martin richard was killed in the attack. >> yeah. >> mayor, with watching all the various press conferences last night and one comment that stuck in my mind, and i don't know whether it's good or bad, is that officials saying you can return to your lives now. we got the guy. we got the guys. how are we so sure of that? >> well, i'm not sure of that myself. there is going to have to be a real revision of security measures. we're living in a very ugly,

very dramatic period of time. a strong anti-american sentiment. neil, to be honest with you, i'm a little disgusted with some of the swooning over these two terrorists by some in the media. i've been on some of these programs where instead of worrying about the values and the tradions and the heritage of americans who many of whom are immigrant, played by the rules, contribute, we're now blaming, what, america for the wreckless behavior of these two terrorists? america, who gave these two young men everything, the best of education, the best of opportunities, the best community to live in, and now all of a sudden, they're blaming america for the behavior of two haters of america? we have to start reshaping attitudes in policies as well. the paramount issue must be the security of all americans and that begins with human intelligence. i've been in this business a long time.

i think we need to do a lot more in order to protect law-abiding americans. i don't care if they came here from another country or lived here all their lives, we need to protect law-abiding people and not worrying about terrorists who come here and their civil rights and their civil liberties. >> it is interesting, mayor, you had mentioned that on fox business. i thought it was profound because you think of the older brother, he had effectively become a citizen on september 11, 2012, the same year he was going back and forth to, you know, chechnya. many are going to try to look at those links and what have you, but invariably, you're right, in a lot of the media coverage there has been a notion that america is to blame for this, yet we are -- your city is proof of that, a mecca for talent

around the world, better than 100 nationalities represented in some of the finest schools in the planets. schools that i could never get into, by the way. but i only point out, mayor, that we do that a lot here. your advice to those in the media do is what? >> i'll tell you, you mentioned the -- the citizenship ceremony. i spoke, i was the main speaker when that terrorist was sworn in. never did i imagine or anybody imagine that there would be somebody out there who would raise their right hand, swear to the constitution, an oath to the constitution of the united states, was also plotting to overthrow and to destroy the united states of america. we have to get tough on those kind of policies. >> how do we do that, mayor? how do you know the crowd you're swearing in is all on the up and up, or do we have to really crack down on that because the other fear is that we overdo it

and then we penalize the many for the sins of a few. >> well, look, the f.b.i. -- somebody must have tipped the f.b.i. off. they told them that one of these terrorists is hacking in a -- acting in a very irrational, anti-american way, he's radicalized. the f.b.i. even brought that person in to their office -- >> two years ago, the state department was alerted by now we're told the russian government that you ought to look at this, at this time, 24-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev, who had chechnyan roots, and they said he's a bad guy. i guess we went through the checking process. not exonerated is a wrong word, but he was cleared. and i'm wondering -- >> i know, he lives in a neighborhood. he lives in a neighborhood. he goes to these great schools. he has many associates. he has many friends. nobody knows anything about his

irrational behavior? i mean, i know about my neighbors. if anybody ever started talking about the overthrow of the united states or starting acting in that kind of irrational behavior, i'd call up the f.b.i. immediately and demand that they interview that person and i'd want to know what kind of follow-up. >> neil: why do you think -- i'm sorry. what do you think then, that the f.b.i. did look into this or that the state department did, they interviewed the older brother and apparently found that nothing that would be so incriminating as to depose him or certainly deport him? >> they should have followed up on it because they obviously were wrong in that regard because this man went to russia and to chechnya and he was radicalized. people are on television now saying that. even his own uncle was saying, you know, he's a different person now than what he was when he lived with him.

now, why couldn't that information be conveyed to the f.b.i., to homeland security, to proper authorities? that's what i'm talking about. we have to take measures that are going to protect decent, law-abiding citizens of the united states and yes, we're concerned about civil liberties and freedoms in this. but let's begin with security of our own people and security of innocent people, whether they were born here or whether or not they're new arrivals. they are entitled to the constitutional protection of a free society and also to be safe. >> neil: mayor, well put. very good seeing you again, even under these circumstances, sir. thank you. >> thank you, neil. >> neil: mayor flint, the mayor's point, there is so much we don't know about these brothers. but we glean what we can from web site on the like, facebook, you name it. among some of the comments to tamerlan tsarnaev, frustration with america and the fact that

he -- i don't know what there is about this country. i don't have a single american friend. i feel lost. i feel like an island. his younger brother telling others, some years later, we feel like we're out of place. are we out of place? we seem out of place. the f.b.i. is piecing all of this together. why would two young men who otherwise were undetected by even those closest to them suddenly did the unthinkable? [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work.

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>> neil: you know how these legal investigationso, hindsight is always 20/20, if only we had caught mohammed atta checking into the portland airport, that famous security footage where he's just whisking by security on his way with a date with destiny and terror.

we're also doing that with these two alleged conspirators in this attack on boston, particularly with the older brother who was fingered by no less than the russian government as the guy we might want to talk to. security officials did, including the f.b.i our dog mcelway has been looking into that and joins us out of washington. what have got? >> the f.b.i.'s acknowledgment on friday that they interviewed the elder brother two years ago at the request of a foreign government will become a key focus in the days and weeks ahead. the f.b.i. itself did not identify the foreign government, but as you said, it's almost certainly russia whose extensive history of battling chechen terrorism would give them concern. it would not be coincidental that president putin spoke to president obama by phone yesterday to offer condolences over the terrorist attack. given tamerlan tsarnaev's extensive postings of jihaddist videos, it strikes some as peculiar that the f.b.i. just did not follow up.

>> if the fssb, the russian internal security services told us that someone was involved with the chechens, that would, in my mind, necessitate significant coverage for a period of a sustained period of time. did that happen? this is going to be the question for the bureau. they're going to have to answer these things. >> and the mother of the two suspects told russian television on friday that her son was controlled by the f.b.i. for three to five years, quoting from her, they knew what my son was doing. they knew actions and on what sites the internet he was going, end quote. in a statement that extensively praises the f.b.i.'s handling the case, the house homeland security chairman mike mccall left open this window for further exploration of this. quote, in the coming weeks, the homeland security committee will ask how this happened and how we can prevent it from happening again. chechnya is an overwhelmingly muslim region noted for its

especially ruthless terrorist attack, perhaps the most gruesome were the moscow theater attack where they took 850 hostages while demanding withdrawal of russian forces. it ended after three days when russian forces pumped an unknown gas into the theater, killing all of the terrorists and many of the hostages. then there was that awful massacre in 2004 where chechen separatists took over an elementary. several hundred were killed, many of them children. neil? >> neil: doug, thank you very, very much. much will be said of what these brothers said and wrote electronically to the world, to the world wide web, postings on facebook, twitter. you'll hear a lot of that and in the next two hours, probably more than you care to over the next two days, two weeks, two months, two years, you name it. it's all out there. that is the thing with this great electronic sort of depiction of our lives, all lives. the younger brother had written

this on september 1, 2012 on his facebook page. i don't know why it's hard for many of you to accept that 9-11 was an inside job. i mean, i guess -- i don't say another word for it. the facts they're all the same. he goes on to say not too much after that. september 10, baby, you know what tomorrow is. party at my house. what makes young men who otherwise were enjoying life in the united states go from those welcoming, blessings of this country to wanting nothing but death and destruction in this country? it is the great mystery of the terrorist mind. how it evolves. scott brown on that after this. (announcer) at scottrade, our clients trade and invest exactly how they want.

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>> neil: right now it's about connecting the dots, connecting the e-mails, connecting the electronic messages, texts back and forth. i mentioned a little earlier about the older brother who was killed in the shootout the other night in watertown, massachusetts. some of the tweets we're getting from his brother dzhokhar, this is coming from the day of the attack, 7:04 p.m ain't no heart -- love in the heart of the city. he says, a few hours later, there were people that don't know the truth, but stay silent and there are people that speak the truth but we don't hear them because they're the minority. the next day, now adays, everybody wants to talk like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips.

just a bunch of jibberish, using a limerick, the line from eminem. the bottom line is, totally separating himself clearly from the attacks, but probably having something to say about the media coverage of those attacks because he closes the last note tweet we have, april 17, i'm a stress free kind of guy. that might have been the case until, i don't know, sometime last night. scott brown, the former massachusetts senator, fox contributor joins us now. you know, senator, everybody and his uncle is doing the same thing, piecing together tweets like that, the history of the state department of being warned about the older brother two years ago. what do you think is emerging? what do you think is coming together of these two brothers and their associations, who they knew, what they knew and when? >> well, first of all, i don't think he's a care free guy anymore. >> neil: i hear you on that.

>> number one. number two, i want to first of all thank everybody for their prayers and thoughts and endeavors and helping a lot of the victims from this tragedy. bottom line, neil, you're going to see a top to bottom review of every facet of not only the bombing, but prior to and whether there are any issues with the state department, whether they should have been using their due diligence more effectively to see if this person was in fact a person of interest and should have been watched and monitored more quickly. right now it's very easy to do the monday morning quarterbacks. i think what we need to focus on is what went right and what went right is you had a seamless, as a former member of homeland security, knowing that we provided the resources and tools for the federal government and federal law enforcement to work with homeland security, state, municipal officials, it worked seamlessly. that's good thing. are there other things that need to be worked on? sure, sure. but we don't know what they are right now. i'm very thankful that this thing is overment the people of

massachusetts are very thankful it's over. and i think we're going to be learning a lot more, obviously, in the days and weeks that come along. it's up to the justice department to make sure they don't make any mistake and give this guy any ability to kind of weasel out of these charges. >> neil: you know, you talk about how boston authorities reacted and dealt with this and i share your kudos for them. it's been remarkable. but i guess what alarmed me a little bit, senator, and as somebody who dealt with homeland security issues in your time in the senate, is that homeland security did what homeland security was supposed to do. the agency were communicating with each other. this warning was relayed. it was take it to the local f.b.i they did interview this guy and i'm not here to cast aspersions. i am saying even when you can communicate and when agencies are working in concert they can screw up. so is there a lesson to be learned from that or how they

button this sort of thing down, what? >> well, i can only tell from you my experiences being one of the ranking members that the pokes and prods and attacks on a daily basis we get not only through cyber, but through actual physical potential attacks and the like, it's unbelievable. my hat goes off to the homeland security folks and what they've been doing. we have been providing good taxpayer dollars to allow them to do their jobs and are things going to happen like this? yes. it was a target, soft target, rich environment and it's unlikely that this could have been stopped. but tell you what, i know london is preparing for their marathon of the they learned a lot of lessons. we're going to convey those lessons to them. people need to be aware. they need to see and be aware of their surroundings at all times. we live as the former mayor and ambassador flint said, we live in a different time and we are in a -- we are from a proud country and we have nothing to be ashamed of. it's these kids who somehow went down a track that we don't know

why, but i'm sure we'll find out. >> neil: we will. thank you, scott brown. good seeing you. all right. into his point about -- i think it's closing in on $20 million raised by business using supercomputing and mobile technology over our secure network, verizon innovators are building a world of medical treatment data in the cloud. so doctors can make a more informed diagnosis from anywhere, in seconds rather than months. because the world's biggest challenges deserve even bigger solutions. powerful answers. verizon.

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